I'm curious about this as well. They should be leading and flat. For Example Windtree Golf is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. 9 iron 42 145 [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] PM Grind 2.0 54w/PX, PM Grind 1.0 64 w/DG [size=5][b] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. Lastly I thought bending irons stronger, influenced the bounce of the club as well. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] We've chosen this model as it is a popular iron that suits a wide range of players from low handicappers to game improvers. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. By Mizuno JPX-800 Pro 5-P, X100 Yes, that above but It is as basic as that. I read your comments on why some bend lofts on iron sets strong and i try to swing smooth because to me swinging hard offers little to no benefit ,please remember im talking about me and not others in general , i have lost speed on my swing over the last 5 years where it was noticable to me , but i truly started losing speed after my rotator cuff and bicep tendon tear on my right arm , i cant say it was a noticable difference but that is when it started in 2010 is when i started bending all my irons strong because of lost distance because i was hitting irons 1/4 to 1/2 a club different and it progressed over the next few seasons to a full 1/2 a club or about 2 degree's and then came a hip replacement in 2014 and when i got back to playing regularly i was bending a 46 degree wedge to 43 degree / 9 iron 39 degree's and so on and i did that to try to get to the same distance i had in 2010 where i hit GW 110 / PW 120 /9 iron 130 and it progressed from there .. Although the process is relatively straightforward, its all about fine margins, and you can get it wrong if you dont know what youre doing. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. But it would reduce bounce by 2*, which may affect playability. It will just require substituting a hybrid for the 5 iron and up rather than for the 4 iron and up. [/quote] Cobra King LTD 17* w/Blueboard, Scor 50* RTX3 54* MD5 58* tiger does it, hyuck hyuck. Two of the most common swing flaws among amateurs, are swings that are either too "steep" or that are "over the top" (each creating an out-to-in swing path). Tipped shafts. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable, TM Stealth 15 w/Ventus Red Even with limitations, many of todays metal woods are indeed bendable, especially stainless-steel heads. (I think) I know this isn't real complexI guess what I'm asking is, I'm not sure what he testedI'm guessing lie since I hit on a board. Thanks! Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? [/quote] I have read that if you bend 1 degree strong you lower the bounce on the iron. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. thanks, Any help would be much appreciated! Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. To do this I will need to bend the 6 iron - PW 1 degree stronger. Nike Vapor Flex 9.5* Left/Low, Rogue Max Low 75TX Clear editor. I would think if anything it just shows that some taller people are getting into golf. Reset Password We're not robotic enough to predict that exactly 3 or 4 degrees is the correct gap empirically. 6 iron 29 183 You should only really bend your golf clubs yourself if you have the right equipment at home to do the job. An affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to Amazon. R11S 8* square; Stock stiff To help keep their driver shafts stable and the golf ball in play off the tee, many of them "tip," or trim, their golf shafts to make . Yes, when we talk of bending golf clubs, the iron family are the best candidates. gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. Taking the next club up isn't as easy because the lengths are longer and it won't be as easy to control. Forged titanium models are bendable as well due to their softer titanium structure. [quote name='cxx' timestamp='1441038802' post='12239622'] XXIO X Series 5 Wood! PGA Tour players swing the club fast. The most popular brand is Golfsmith which manufactures high-quality loft/lie bending machines. With all due respect, I am not saying you do not, but club fitters do this all the time and if they mess it up then they can replace the club. [/quote] Bending golf clubs is a viable option if youre looking to adjust the lie angle and loft of your golf clubs. Mickesgolf On the one hand to adjust the lie individually. Your link has been automatically embedded. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. Lastly I thought bending irons stronger, influenced the bounce of the club as well. ** Due to coronavirus and the work restrictions in place here in Michigan, for international orders, please email info@mitchellgolf.com for a complete quote. [/quote] It is just a way to fit the club for your swing, nothing that is . as others have already pointed out, there is no fixed standard lie (just like there is no standard loft) which means that one set of irons "bumped" up by 2 degrees may have the same lie angles as a different set of irons that have not been adjusted. I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Check out our video: how-to bend your clubs on a Mitchell Golf Angle Machine:Get Bending! I have some of my irons bent 2* strong. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. One way to make the necessary adjustments to your golf clubs is to bend them. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. 2. 8-iron - 34.5 degrees. You absolutely can buy a golf bending machine to use at home, but you will find that theyre super expensive, typically costing several hundred if not thousands of dollars. If they can market a club that will cut down on that slice they are going to sell more clubs. Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. Have you experimented with different shafts? Cleveland RTX 2.0 50*, 55*, 60* I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Thanks. Haven't registered for Team Titleist yet? no i've struggled with a fade all season. You can take your clubs to a fitter, and they will be able to check the angles and lofts of each of your irons and make any necessary adjustments based on what they find. It would seem that bending lofts stronger would make them go further. Clear editor. A standard golf shop, or fitting center will be able to do this. Bending golf clubs is a relatively inexpensive procedure that you can pay someone else to do on your behalf. Yes, when we talk of bending golf clubs, the iron family are the best candidates. I know a guy who is about 5'6" and has shortish arms for his size. So I'm in the process of getting new irons and I'm curious about the idea of getting them bent a degree or two strong. So if you are steep or tend to take a pretty good divot, you may not want to bend them more than a degree. Of course the 4* bend is just to illustrate the point but it's better than describing everything in fractions of clubs. If the hosel design and manufacturing processes allow it, the lie of an iron can be bent 3-4 degrees or more with no compromise to the integrity of the head. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. I can do that with my 5 iron.. Oh wait never mine. MEMBER REVIEWS: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! Cameron Special Select DelMar. 5 iron 26 198 When i play alone i use the 3-4 and 5 irons more to see how i hit them but otherwise i use 18 - 21 and 24 degree hybrids as they are just a no brainer on how they are a better choice for someone who has a slower swing speed .. however i wiish i could still hit irons instead every round .. You can post now and register later. 2023 Acushnet Company. Maybe it's just me but it seems you can't change the relationship between the loft of the club and the spin, given you're putting the same swing on it. [/quote] This sounds like a lot of advice from people who have never been high ball speed, high spin, high trajectory players. [quote name='tx33' timestamp='1444281825' post='12426402'] Best of luck.Chuck. But if the bounce is already minimal you start going into negative bounce. How accurate are the loft and lie readings of clubs straight from the manufacturer? We also conclusively say whether or not you should bend your clubs yourself or take them to a custom club fitter to take care of the process for you. Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. WRXer 'harpu728' kicks off the thread saying: "Being that higher-lofted irons within the same set are easier to hit (i.e. Bubba might better be able to answer that question, I know you can with the mb or cbs. It would definitely not work for me but might be ok for you. Started Yesterday at 10:25 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. #3 there are no real cons, bend away and try it. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. In most instances, this means investing in high-tech golf bending machine that allows you to adjust your clubs by about two degrees. This will change the trajectory of the ball, and can potentially cause misdirected shots. It wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly why Jason Day chooses to play 4-P all bent a club strong. You will notice the strike feels much more energetic and the ball flies totally different when you get it right. Standard length and lie are perfect for me. Club bending can go wrong pretty easily, and its a mistake that you dont want to make with your irons! If you wanted to know more about how the process works of bending the loft and lie angle of clubs, watch the video below from Mitchell Golf: Although golfers often buy new golf clubs instead of modifying their current irons, bending clubs is a great way to make changes to the loft of your clubs to help you improve your accuracy and consistency. Currently I'm playing 712 MB's with x100 shafts at standard loft. There does seem to be an abrupt cut off on the minimum iron loft at slower swing speeds. Mizuno irons can be adjusted to varying degrees depending on model and material type. I'm concerned, however, that if I purchase a set of Scratch irons with what I think is the right grind for me (S/S) and bend the lofts a couple of degrees strong (ie. The majority of handicap golfers fight a slice. I'm curious about this as well. And provided the hosel of the wood is long enough to allow the bending bar to fit over its length, metal woods can be bent to custom-fit a player. So for many, playing an upright lie with your irons is a quick and dirty fix for those who can't or don't want to take the time to fix a swing flaw. Clubs are mass-produced with certain manufacturing variances in every factory. Hogan was big into this. which leads to your observation since a rather huge majority of golfers slice the ball (even if they like to call it a fade) then a simple band-aid is to bend it more upright.. in the same way most drivers have their faces set closed at address and also with far more upright lie angles than 'fits'. Paste as plain text instead, You need to make sure that bending your clubs is right for your game, as you dont want to jeopardize what you already have. To avoid this, make sure to take your irons to a golf pro at least once a year. Whether its changing the lie to improve accuracy or changing loft to make sure that the players clubs are progressively consistent, angle bending is a major factor in club performance. IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. Vice versa if the club is upright. Given that bending your golf clubs is all about fine margins, its far too easy to get it wrong when you do it yourself, so its much better to entrust the process with a fitter who has the experience and the right equipment! Day in particular looks like he's always hitting 100% or more. Upload or insert images from URL. Or do people change launch angle to decrease bounce? Vice versa if the club is upright. [/quote] Or Ping Glide Stealth, 54,58 SS. As far as launch angle goes, that isnt really as important on irons because you have so many of them (compared to 1 driver etc). then reapeat, but, move the ball more forward(note the change). 6-iron launch: 17* You can post now and register later. I am 6ft tall and was fit into 2 deg upright. [/quote]Not gushing about that but I will gush over a 63-62 weekend. If you take your clubs to a fitter or professional, you can expect to pay somewhere between $5-$20 per club, but a lot will depend on the price of amendments in your local area. So I was fitted for clubs and the pro said that on my new clubs I didn't need any adjustment. Golf clubs that are 17-4 stainless steel cast irons will be more difficult to bend, as they are made of much harder metal than the likes of carbon steel and graphite. I agree with what you're saying entirely, I know I have to get my spinloft down. gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. By Greyson P. I just purchase a great used 712 AP2 set. Display as a link instead, To be bendable the iron has to have the proper heat treatment or annealing that will allow bending - let's make the assumption that quality irons indeed have this treatment. It also improved my gapping, even though they were all bent the same 2* strong. Taylormade Aeroburner TP 15* GD AD-BB 7x. Remember, the set is not necessarily progressively consistent from one club to another, and therefore each club should be checked. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable Clear editor. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By gonna give the "reality" recommendation so far. The good news is that the vast majority of irons can be bent, even those that are high-quality cast. By Anyone know if most pros have this done? When you start messing with length, then you also mess with swing weight and then adding weight to compensate for the SW can start messing with the flex of the shaft. Gotcha. Note where the player's 'natural' lie angle is - ie the neutral/normal lie angle as above - but then intentionally bend the lie angle to mitigate their hook/slice tendencies. A variety of reasons- less bounce, less spin, a flatter ballflight, matching a previous set they were comfortable with, etc. GIVEAWAY! I wish I had 95 mph with anything. QEight Advanced Members 3.6k Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted August 8, 2014 Leather Golf Grips Review: Should I Use Them? [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] Apologies for the generalization to right-handed golfers, the opposite will obviously apply to lefties. an 8 iron is easier to hit than a 6 iron), I'm trying to draw comparisons to modern irons with stronger lofts, and if . In our forums, our members have been discussing modern irons with stronger lofts and whether they are easier or harder to play than older irons. Now tilt the club grip end down a bit so that the club's toe comes up off the ground a fair bit and you'll see the pencil now points subtantially more leftward than before. Every set of clubs sold should have some sort of custom work on them if fitted properly. Started Yesterday at 10:25 AM, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here. The iron will roll 'open' when bent strong. 6 iron 30 180 Honma TW-U forged 18* W/ KBS Prototype 95X Pw 47 125 get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). Will that change the playability of the irons dramatically? Biggest difference is in hit 2 degree upright in the center much more often and not as thin. [/quote] He's on fire now, but I can't remember him playing well in windy conditions.
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